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Old May 22, 2008, 03:58 AM // 03:58   #81
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Instead of having two versions of the same skills why not just expand on PvE only skills? Make it clear that the core skills (as allowed in PvP) are subject to balance and change but let the PvE skills be more static.

I'd rather see skills limited by their use (PvP or PvE) rather just having multiple versions of the same skills. Seems like such a PvP turn off for those coming from the PvE side...
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Old May 22, 2008, 04:16 AM // 04:16   #82
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To those who are crying about Izzy generalizing PVE'ers with a wide brush, you're in complete denial. He's completely correct in that in general, PVE players want to be overpowered or at least content with it. Just look at the many update threads, SR threads, AOE threads, UB threads, etc etc.

We PVE players have no one else to blame for this generalisation but ourselves.
If the only source of feedback Izzy relied on to gauge the state of PvE were the whiners, it's no wonder PvE has become what it is. But it's still a generalization based on a non-representative sample of the larger PvE community. Not everyone who posted complained about nerfs, jumped for joy over the imba skills ANet thought we all wanted, or called for more epic-making skills to make us feel good about ourselves. Some (maybe even many) were content with the PvP-motivated skill changes, and see the PvE-only skills as appeasing only a subset of players who couldn't adapt to change. They don't speak for me, and I dare say they don't speak for everyone posting on Guru. Had Izzy said "the whining, sniveling segment of the PvE community tends to want over-powered skills", I'd have agreed with the sentiment.
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Old May 22, 2008, 04:31 AM // 04:31   #83
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... Had Izzy said "the whining, sniveling segment of the PvE community tends to want over-powered skills", I'd have agreed with the sentiment.
His generalization covers these players perfectly as they are the majority. There are so few outside that description that it's safe to make the generalization he did and be surgically accurate.
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